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Losing the War of Ideas, Again

Tom Barry | December 14, 2007

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Ed. Note: This article is part of a new series that examines the evolving ideological frameworks shaping the immigration debate.

In the war of ideas over immigration, liberals are in disarray. Anti-immigration advocates have created the ideological frameworks—security, rule of law, nationalism—that now frame the raging immigration debate. Meanwhile, immigration advocates find that their own humanitarian, economic, and historical arguments supporting liberal immigration flows have little resonance in the public debate.

The restrictionist surge comes at a time when other forces of the right—especially the social conservatives and the neoconservatives—see their hold on the national policy agenda slipping. Liberal ideas on health care, anti-discrimination, environmental protection, economic policy, and international affairs are now ascendant in U.S. politics.

Why then, when liberals have managed to push the right to the sidelines on most issues, have the restrictionists succeeded so dramatically in shifting the immigration debate to their terms?

In part, immigration restrictionism dominates the debate because immigration advocates have failed to frame immigration issues in a way that reaches the U.S. public. They have also failed to counter the new messaging and organizing by the immigration restrictionists, or to adapt to the changing security and economic conditions in the United States.

In contrast, immigration restrictionists have proved adept at adapting their messaging to the evolving concerns in U.S. communities. What's more, by mobilizing activist constituencies they have blocked comprehensive immigration reform in Washington and successfully advanced harsh restrictionist policies at both the local and federal levels.

Slow Rise of Restrictionism

For more than 20 years immigration restrictionists were outsiders. They emerged in the political landscape of the late 1970s along with the social conservatives and neoconservatives. With origins in the environmental and population control movements, restrictionist groups like the Federation of American Immigration Reform (FAIR) were viewed warily at first by the New Right forces of the Republican Party.

The restrictionists' one-issue focus and liberal roots earned them few allies in the rightwing backlash coalitions that sought to overturn the "liberal establishment" in the domestic and foreign policy arenas. The leadership of both political parties also rejected the restrictionist agenda, making it difficult for anti-immigration groups to gain a foothold in Washington.

But the restrictionists slowly began to expand their reach in the 1990s. As immigration flows into the United States increased and the number of children born to immigrant parents rose, restrictionist alarmism about the threat of immigrants to the U.S. economy and society spread.

New anti-immigration groups, including Project USA, Numbers USA, and the Center for Immigration Studies, joined FAIR in promoting the restrictionist cause in Washington. However, it was at the state level that the restrictionists had their first victory. With the support of the restrictionist lobby in the nation's capital, local restrictionist groups organized anti-immigration referendums in California and several other states in the mid-1990s. The anti-immigrant Proposition 187 in California passed with nearly 60% of the vote in 1994.

But the restrictionist victory in California was short-lived. A federal court overturned the measure. Anti-immigrant organizing in other states such as Texas and Florida stalled, and the restrictionists turned their attention back to Washington.

In 1996 President Clinton signed an immigration reform bill that demonstrated increased concern on the part of the political class that immigration flows were becoming a national issue. The bill provided increased funding for the Border Patrol, curtailed the rights of immigrants, and denied many forms of federal assistance to non-citizens.

The formation of the House Immigration Reform Caucus in 1999 by Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) moved the forces of restrictionism directly into the chambers of government. But without support from the party's leadership, Tancredo's restrictionist congressmen had little impact. The Republican Party leadership regarded Tancredo as a crank, and failed to appreciate the rising salience of the immigration issue among social conservatives and heartland government officials.

The booming U.S. economy of the late 1990s, along with the prevailing enthusiasm for globalization, didn't provide fertile ground for anti-immigrant movements. By June 2007, when Congress was considering a comprehensive immigration reform bill, restrictionism was sweeping through the country powered by a new anti-immigration rhetoric stressing national security, respect for the rule of law, and the well-being of citizen workers and government services.

Anti-Immigration Patriotism

September 11th changed everything for the restrictionists. In the aftermath of the terrorist attacks and with the launch of the administration's "war against global terrorism," anti-immigration groups reframed their restrictionism to tap into the swell of concern about U.S. national security. Alarm about the "invasion of aliens" across the U.S.-Mexico border, previously couched in the language of cultural nationalism, is now framed as a national security issue. The xenophobia, nationalism, and racism of many radical restrictionists became draped in patriotism after Sept. 11, 2001.

While before September 11th, the restrictionists were voices in the desert warning against porous borders and the threat of "aliens" to our national security, most proponents of immigration reform now routinely preface arguments for legalization with promises to secure U.S. borders. The terms security, border security, and national security appear in virtually all reform bills whether at a federal, state, or local level, such as the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act proposed by Senators John McCain and Edward Kennedy in 2005 or the Georgia Security and Immigration Compliance Act of 2006.

By ignoring or downplaying border control concerns for so many years, immigration advocates had left the "security" framework open for the restrictionists to seize. Now, liberal immigration reformers regularly incorporate calls for improved security into their arguments for comprehensive immigration reform. Together with Republicans, congressional Democrats support security-first agendas long advocated by the restrictionists, such as the Secure Fence Act to build a U.S.-Mexico border barrier.

During the November 15 candidate debate, Barack Obama, responding to a question about immigration, said: "As president I will make sure that we finally have the kind of border security that we need. That's step number one."

Although some immigration advocates hope that the approval of "law enforcement first" measures will open up new policy space for comprehensive immigration reform, the immediate result has been to encourage the restrictionists to expand their demands for immigration law enforcement and border control—all in the name of national security.

Liberals have lost the war of ideas about security and immigration. By the time immigrant rights advocates joined the national security debate, the anti-immigration groups already owned the issue. Never having seriously weighed in on border control issues (a longtime rallying call for the restrictionists), those advocating comprehensive immigration reform had little credibility on the security and immigration issue. Unable to advance counterarguments—such as that national security would be best served by processing and legalization of unauthorized immigrants rather than driving them further into the shadows—many proponents of comprehensive reform lined up with the restrictionists and their enforcement-first agenda.

"What don't you understand about illegal?"

Anti-immigration forces in the last several years have also succeeded in popularizing the "rule of law" argument. The current rule of law framework used by restrictionists is an extension of their slogan, "What don't you understand about illegal?" which they found had great resonance among those looking for a restrictionist argument that wasn't tinged with racism or nativism.

Building on this demand that the government treat unauthorized immigrants as law breakers, restrictionists have in the past couple of years mounted a broader, conceptual plea that government uphold the "rule of law" and no longer tolerate "illegal" immigrants, who from the moment they crossed the border became criminals, and when in the country routinely engage in document deception and document theft.

An October 2005 Heritage Foundation essay, "Rule of Law at Stake in the Immigration Debate," helped propel the rule-of-law framework into the mainstream media. Written by former attorney general Edwin Meese, a Heritage Foundation fellow, the essay was broadcast by Fox News. Meese and foundation colleague James Jay Carafano wrote: "We need to encourage federal, state, and local governments to enforce our laws and work together to improve the security infrastructure at points of entry. Enforcement should include prosecuting benefits fraud, identity theft, and tax evasion, in addition to immigration violations."

Today, the restrictionist camp frequently frames its anti-immigration position as a principled stance in favor of the rule of law. They have positioned themselves as the protectors of law, while they paint immigrants and their defenders as undermining legality in the United States.

Oftentimes, the security and rule-of-law frameworks are conjoined, as presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani does. "Real immigration reform must put security first because border security and homeland security are inseparable in the 'Terrorists' War on Us,'" says Giuliani on his website, "The first responsibility of the federal government is to protect our citizens by controlling America's borders, while ending illegal immigration and identifying every non-citizen in our nation. We must restore integrity, accountability, and the rule of law to our immigration system to regain the faith of the American people."

The rule-of-law framework, as used by the restrictionist movement, has left liberals floundering. After all, there is no denying that 12 million immigrants are in the United States illegally. Not only are they undocumented, but they also use counterfeit documents and fake Social Security numbers when seeking employment or applying for services and utilities.

The rule-of-law framework is a powerful tool for the restrictionists. But rather than concede this territory to the anti-immigration groups as was done with the security framework for immigration, immigration advocates would do well by taking the rule-of-law argument head on. Restrictionists generally limit their discussion of law and immigration to infractions by immigrants. They fail to note that in the absence of comprehensive immigration reform, illegality has spread through our society and economy, as many businesses and homeowners employ immigrants without legal papers.

How far should society and government take the rule of law: Deport 12 million illegal immigrants? Penalize the millions of businesses and homeowners that employ immigrants? Force providers of humanitarian and social services to break the law if they meet the needs of illegal immigrants?

By appealing to the rule of law, restrictionists tap the core belief of the U.S. public that we are a nation of laws and that no one should stand outside the law. They have transformed a fundamentally liberal concept into a conservative law-and-order framework. On yet another front in the immigration debate, liberals have lost the war of ideas.

Protectionism and Populism

Liberals are also losing the debate in what has traditionally been their strong suit—the economic benefits of immigration. A wealth of data supports the contention that immigrants are good for the economy.

Until the early 1990s restrictionists argued their case mainly on social, cultural, environmental, and even racial grounds. When addressing the economic impact of immigration, the anti-immigration forces mainly focused on the cost to government, particularly local governments, of providing services to poor immigrants.

With the deepening of globalization, right-wing nationalists like Patrick Buchanan began integrating their protectionist positions against free trade and immigrants. Rather than disputing the overall economic benefits of immigration, Buchanan and other economic nationalists challenged the underlying assumption that economic growth always benefits the majority. What's good for the economy, they counter, is not necessarily good for workers and the middle class. What's good for profits of big business, they assert, is not necessarily good for the average person.

It was not, however, until the last several years that economic nationalism has taken hold. In the 1990s, this right-wing populism was driven largely by opposition to NAFTA, the World Trade Organization, and other free trade agreements. In the last several years, the main target of the right-wing populists like Buchanan and CNN's Lou Dobbs has been immigration. In both cases—free trade and immigration—they make a persuasive case that the main beneficiary is Corporate America, not what Dobbs in his "Broken Borders" program calls the "American citizen."

While there is certainly an explicit cultural and racial component of the restrictionist movement, the populist message that taps resentment of the government and big business is now central to the anti-immigration movement. This was evident in the post-immigration bill rhetoric of the restrictionists. The defeat of comprehensive immigration was framed as a populist victory against the "establishment."

Buchanan exclaimed that the posed immigration bill had "ignited a spontaneous uprising against the leadership of both parties, corporate America, and the mainstream media." Not only did the president suffer a "major humiliation," wrote Buchanan, but "routed, too, were Teddy Kennedy and John McCain, the Chamber of Commerce and La Raza, the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal."

NumbersUSA president Roy Beck congratulated the 455,000 members of the restrictionist group for "defeating a bill—and embarrassing the whole Establishment." Right-wing columnist Rich Lowry called it "a techno-populist victory," noting that "bloggers, talk-radio hosts, and citizens were able to have a synergistic power of the Internet, radio waves, and telephone lines."

Members of the Immigration Reform Caucus also celebrated what they regarded as a victory of the people over the elite. "The public should take note of all those who dismissed their opposition as uninformed skepticism and remind their elected leaders not to underestimate the powerful voice of the American people," advised Rep. Dana Rohrbacher (R-CA). "Congratulations, Mr. and Mrs. America, we just saved America," said Rohrbacher.

Summarizing the restrictionist victory, Buchanan wrote: "The Beltway was routed by a coalition of TV and radio talk show hosts, grassroots activists, and backbenchers with the courage to defy their masters. The regime was run off the hill by the country that it claims to represent." In his view, the masses won a rare victory. "A defeat like this is almost unheard of in Washington. For when the establishment unites—as it did behind the Panama Canal giveaway and NAFTA—it almost always wins."

While right-wing populists like Buchanan and Dobbs rail against the impact of globalization and "open borders" on the middle class, they fail to acknowledge that globalization is also driving increased immigration flows—that U.S. workers and immigrants themselves are in many ways victims of the same disruptive economic forces. At the same time, however, immigrant advocates have a difficult time reaching beyond the immigrant and church communities because they generally fail to acknowledge that immigration flows also can have a disruptive social and economic impact, especially on the poor and least educated.

The larger problem is that there is no vibrant social democratic or populist movement on the center-left within which immigrant advocates can situate their demands. Until immigration advocates can take the thunder out of the Lou Dobbsian populism by speaking directly to the economic plight of U.S. citizens and all workers, the prospects for immigration reform that supports a just legalization process are grim.

A major success of the restrictionists has been their recent strategy of calling for anti-immigration reform in the name of American citizens and the "common good" while leveraging the inchoate rage against the federal government and transnational corporations.

In the immigration debate, as in all wars of ideas, the challenge is to frame messages that make intuitive sense without being dangerously simplistic and without appealing to the emotions that are easiest to tap—fear and hate.

Tom Barry is a senior analyst with the Americas Policy Program (www.americaspolicy.org) at the Center for International Policy.

 

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Name:  Bobby Date: Dec 16, 2007
There is nothing whatever wrong with the concept of nationalism. Sure, it goes against the concept of globalization. So what. Nationalism makes nations strong, globalism makes them weak. Indeed, the individual seems to have no place in the globalist concept. It is a chimera, an illusion, forced on the peoples of the world to serve the agenda of big business. Nothing more or less.
Name:  Niranjan Ramakrishnan Date: Dec 17, 2007
Or is it because average Americans 'have' heard the message too well? Americans understand that breaking the law is indefensible. This is one of the concepts the average American understands better than the average citizen of other countries.

Last year we had massive and defiant rallies of illegal immigrants in various cities, flipping off their hosts with much gusto. And now Mr. Barry is surprised that the 'liberals' are losing this battle? There is nothing liberal about illegal immigration and nothing illiberal about opposing it. This is not a matter of 'liberals' somehow not couching the argument in proper terms. The answer is obvious to anyone who can reason.

A simple question I like to ask people when the argue for illegal immigration is, would you like some vagrants (assume they are poor, needy, etc. etc.) to break into YOUR HOME and proceed establish themselves? What would be your response? If you wouldn't then why is someone like Mr. Barry, sitting in Washington or New York, expecting those in border states to shoulder the burdens of his conscience?

Name:  Humberto Date: Dec 17, 2007
Throughout this article I have seen references to anti-immigration but no mention of anti-ILLEGAL immigration. You will not further your agenda by ignoring the most integral component of this debate. Tens of millions of people favor LEGAL immigration while opposing ILLEGAL immigration. Failure to acknowledge this fact is to deny our very existence.
Name:  tgray Date: Dec 17, 2007
So the "restrictionist" groups had origins in the environmental and population control movements of the '70's, as you say. Were these not patently liberal movements? Inherent in your analysis is that there must now be both liberals who have gone bad, (become "restrictionists"), and good liberals who support continuing massive levels of immigration both legal and illegal. Has there been a Great Liberal Schism? Perhaps. Those who did and do care deeply about the environment have also to care greatly about burgeoning popuation growth with its resultant environmental degradation. The informed among them would support sharp reductions in legal immigration numbers, as well as eliminating the overwhelming supercargo of illegal immigrants. Simplistic mindsets like, "all immigration is good, the more the better" are dangerous. Grown up liberals gone bad have perhaps learned that policies always have consequences. And I take issue with your depiction of the power and number of restrictionists. There are ever growing numbers of citizens who oppose illegal immigration and fast track paths to citizenship for illegal migrants. But no evidence exists that there is any large plurality among them who strongly support any meaningful reductions or restrictions to current high immigration levels. No, the true restrictionists continue to be mainly those liberals gone bad from the environmental and population control movements. And we continue to wonder why we see so many of you good liberals aligned with the increasingly dangerous and irresponsible corporatist wing of the Republican Party on immigration issues, and yet never resorting to self examination in order to account for such an illogical union.
Name:  nativ2ca Date: Dec 17, 2007
Why doesn't this writer try to see the difference between illegal and legal immigration? Also it would be great if immigrant avocates could focus their time and efforts on helping our country USA for a change.

Name:  A Reader Date: Dec 17, 2007
You refer to illegal aliens as "immigrants". Well, I am an immigrant and am deeply offended by your recklessly throwing me into the same category with border violators and immigration law breakers.

Yet I noticed on other occasions that those who blur the distinction between immigrants (who have played by the rules) and illegal aliens (who have not) staunchly oppose putting all illegals into the same category, and insist that we differentiate between "good" illegals who in their opinion are not criminals, and "bad" illegals that smuggle drugs and people and rob and kill while "immigrating" to the U.S.

I call it hypocrisy.

Name:  Another Reader Date: Dec 17, 2007
First of all, Mr. Barry sits in New Mexico (where many of us are opposed to restrictionism), not Washington or New York, and second, no one is "breaking into our homes" (or yours either). On the contrary, Earth is our home, mine as much as yours or any other inhabitant, and anyone with any hope or dignity would travel far and wide to find a way to support themselves and their families. Some imaginary political border is no excuse for anyone to become the judge, jury, and executioner, handing out God's land as they see fit. Do unto others...
Name:  Salvador Rivera Date: Dec 18, 2007
Excellent piece. I would like to see Mr. Barry expand on the history of this movement, especially w/ regards to environmentalist groups who often surprise true liberals with some outlandish ideas/assumptions. It should be remembered that during the 1920s many progressives were hostile to immigrants indicating their concerns were in the realm of left-wing fascism. There should be more emphasis on how the Klan, Nazis, militias have been utilized by elites such as Dobbs and Buchanan. Accordng to FBI, Hispanics are the leading victims of hate crimes in USA. The link between immigration and free trade is important as demonstrated by Mr. Barry's article. Americans should realize that they are more dependent on free-trade than ever before because third world peoples can now provide (manufacture) for themselves. Even Brazil is producing a 737 type airliner. Third world nations can cast us off anytime they choose with retaliatory measures. Dobbs and Buchanan fail to see that the US and the international economic situation is distinct in 2007 from 1925. Kudos for Mr. Barry.
Name:  nobias Date: Dec 19, 2007

Stats are very open to any discretion however just look.

2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants

CRIME STATISTICS 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.

86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.

75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.

24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally

40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally

48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally

29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually

53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.

50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border.

71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or "transport coyotes".

47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.

63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens

66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66% 98% are illegal aliens.

BIRTH STATISTICS 380,000 plus "anchor babies" were born in the U.S. in 2005 to illegal alien parents, making 380,000 babies automatically U.S.citizens.

97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid by the American taxpayers.

66% plus of all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers

and more..1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County ( L.A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.

10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish. (There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County).

(All the above from the Los Angeles Times)

Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare.

Over 70% of the United States ' annual population growth (and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration.

The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was, (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay), a NET $70 BILLION a year, [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University].

The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE number.

29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

If they can come to this country to raise hell and demonstrate by the thousands, WHY can't they take charge over the corruption in their own country?

We are a bunch of fools for letting this continue.

Name:  Rev Walter L Coleman Date: Dec 19, 2007
If we are losing the war of ideas then it is not because of the ideas but because of the organizational infrastructure to get those ideas across. The aprtheid structure of spanish and english language media gave us excellent coverage in spanish but limited coverage in English. Most importantly, the coalition that had been built over ten years, including labor, church, business, NGOs, and grassroots organizations was effectively sabotaged beginning last May by the leadership of the Democratic Party who felt the issue should be submerged until after the next election. We did not lose the vote in the Senate because the right mobilized but because the Democratic Leadership demobilized the coalition that had been successfully constructed and which had won majority popular support for comprehensive immigration reform. Understanding this requires a movement to confront the democratic leadership to demand action before the next election. The National Assembly of Latino Leaders has taken on this task, successfully unifying the Congressional Hispanic Caucus to take a clear position for legalization and to use their block of votes to force the Democratic leadership to take action. Those who say we should wait until after the election are not looking at Democratic Congressional campaigns, campaigns which will result in a Congress that is further to the right on the immigratin issue than the current congress. We must act now!
Name:  Ed Cunningham Date: Dec 20, 2007
Mr. Barry might want to look at Mexico's strict laws regarding illegal immigration and property ownership. My point being, each country has the right to promulgate and enforce laws that promote the public good. Imagine the hue and cry from La Raza were we to duplicate Mexico's nationalistic laws here! In the face of overwhelming documentation that proves massive illegal immigration is a huge burden, it is beyond me why Mr. Barry continues to have sympathy not for the American citizen, but rather for those causing the problem.
Name:  Tom Barry Date: Dec 26, 2007
Crime and Immigration: The 2006 study cited above was purportedly published by the INS, which ceased to exist in 2003 and never issued joint quarterly reports with the FBI. Like the study itself, these statistics were conjured up to propagate nativist myths about immigrants and circulate widely on the internet. Immigrants, whether legal or illegal, do not raise crime or incarceration rates. To the contrary, immigrants are much less likely to commit crimes or be arrested than U.S. citizens. See a 2007 study by the Immigration Policy Center: http://borderbattles.ssrc.org/Rumbault_Ewing/index4.htm, which is just one of many studies debunking the immigrant-crime connection. Whether on the border, in the country's heartland, or in major urban centers, "illegals" are less likely to be criminals than those born and bred in America. The hate, fear, and scapegoating campaigns of the anti-immigration forces are routinely underwritten by lies and deception.
Name:  Kent Clark Date: Jan 04, 2008
With lost earnings, gangs, overcrowded schools and prisons, hospital closings due to unpaid bills, anarchy on our border, kidnappings, ID theft, drunk driving deaths and the drain on our public resources, there are legitimate concerns about illegal immigrants, which Barry cannot just dismiss as racism and xenophophobia. Barry complains about the "rule of law" argument. News flash: we are a nation of laws as much as we are a nation of immigrants. There are legal ways to enter this country that are ignored by the illegals. Illegal immigration is a violation of our laws and sovereignty. Barry can accuse the "restrictionists" of racism and xenophoia all he wants, since that seems to be his only argument. He fails to present an argument FOR illegal immigration. The facts are not on his side.
Name:  Nico Date: Jan 10, 2008
While I am sympathetic to the immigrants and their advocates, as an African American I am uneasy with, in my experience, are Latinos anti Black American hostility and blatant racism. Having lived in both NYC and Chicago, I have experienced the same kind of anti-Black sentiment from ostensibly Black Puerto Ricans and light-skinned Mexicans and Central Americans. I rarely hear Latinos or immigrant advocates address this issue and it would be refreshing if this site would start.
 
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